A LETTER TO JERRY DEFUCCIO
By Bill Everett, May 19 '61
The Comics, v10 #1.



You seem to have pegged the old comic-book industry pretty well, from the few simple facts you stated in your letter. It's true that Carl Burgos and I started in the game at it's very inception, somewhere back in 1936 or '37, when the going rate was $2.00 per page - believe it or not! I think my very first strip was "Skyrocket Steele", but shortly after that came "The Amazing Man", which enjoyed a short but popular life. Then there was "Dirk the Demon", and several others of short duration, whose titles I can't even recall at this date. Of course, our biggest enterprise was "The Sub-Mariner" and Carl's "Human Torch", both of which carried us along successfully for many years.

I was associated with Lloyd Jacquet, as you probably know, at Funnies, Inc., from about 1938 until the war, when I went into the service. The Sub-Mariner carried on at the hands of Carl Pfeiffer and a few others in my absence, and it was not until late 1946 that I picked it up again. He was finally dropped as a feature title.

You might recall that at Funnies we had such writers as Mickey Spillane, Ray Gill, and John Compto. Bob Wood started with us, then joined forces with Charlie Biro to produce crime comics for Lev Gleason. I guess you know what happened to Bob. Charlie, I understand, is still quite active with the National Cartoonists Society.

Bob Davis was, indeed, one of my best friends. He met his death on his way home to Tarrytown, when he apparently went to sleep at the wheel of his car ( a Sedan, not a sports car) and plunged into a shallow pond off the Saw Mill River Parkway. As I recall it, he did not drown, but dies in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. What made his untimely death so poignant to us was the fact that it occurred after an afternoon and evening of frolic and fun with Carl, myself, and a couple of others from the Funnies gang. I remember that Bob kept calling his wife, Ruth, to tell her he’d be on his way shortly, and we finally persuaded him to leave about 7:00 p.m. That was the end.

To go back a bit, here is a brief resume of my experience in the publishing and related fields: My first job out of school was with the Boston Heraldtravel, on the Retail Advertising art staff - at an overwhelming salary of $12.00 per week. I quit that job when they put me on the night shift, and went to work as a draftsman for The Brooks System, civil engineers in Newton, Mass. I got fired because I refused to chauffeur one of the partners, whose rancid cigar smoke made me ill.

From there I went to Phoenix and on to L.A., jobhunting, but no success. Finally, I returned to New York, and got a job on the Herald Tribune, once again doing retail advertising art work. That job led to another, as Art Editor for Radio News magazine, Teck Publications, Inc. Teck eventually sold out to Ziff-Davis, and I went to Chicago to become Assistant Art Director to Herm Bollin. Unfortunately, Herm and I didn't get along, and I was too big for my britches. I got canned.

I came back to New York, all set to take the world by it's heels - and wound up on the unemployment insurance breadline. I was still drawing compensation when I stumbled onto the comic book field, then brand new. I can't even recall how it happened - wait...Now I remember. A fellow by the name of Walter Holze (sic) had worked with me at Teck, and when Teck sold out went with a small publisher, whose name I can't recall. John H----, something. Anyway, Walter got in touch with me, and told me this guy was doing comic, and was I interested? I was. I was interested in anything at that point. So I went to see him, and that's when I met Lloyd Jacquet and Carl Burgos.

Later, Lloyd split with John, and offered me and a fellow by the name of Max Neill a chance to go in with him and two other guys, John Macon and Frank, on a fifty-fifty basis. We took a small loft office of 45th Street, and started an art service. One of our accounts was Martin Goodman, who was just entering the comic field. Another was Famous Funnies, Eastern Color Printing Co., for whom I did a rather successful strip called "Hydrogen", plus several one-shots. You may know of Steve Douglas, former editor of Famous Funnies. He's had quite a career, and would make interesting material for your book. He and I have been friends for many years. While with Lloyd and the others, I also did a great deal of work on the World's Fair of '41, for the Electric Utilities Corp. of New York. Interesting, but brief. Our biggest client, as it turned out, was Martin Goodman. We produced many different comic titles for him, until about 1940, when he dropped our contract and decided to set up his own production staff, with Arthur Goodman in charge. Both Arthur and Stan Lee were just kids than, and gave us considerable trouble. I guess we were all feeling our oats at that time. We gave them trouble, too. Anyway, Lloyd and I weren't getting along too well at that period, and then there was dissension between Lloyd and John Macon. John left, and Frank Trophy went to work for Martin. Lloyd was carrying on with Jim Fitzsimmmons when I left to go into the service.

I married while in the army - a girl named Gwenn Randell, from Nebraska, who was working for the Ordinance Dept. in the Pentagon. I met her in '42 when I was attending Officer Candidate School at Fort Belvoir, and married her when I returned from the European Theater in '44. Our first child, a daughter, was born just before I was shipped out to the Pacific. I was in the Philippines when the war was terminated, and returned home in February, '46.

I'd come into a little money when my great-uncle died during the war, so I sort of loafed around for a while after I got home, travelling around a bit, and finally settling in my wife's home town, Fairbury, Nebraska. This was when I renewed my association with Martin Goodman, working by mail on a free-lance basis, picking up the Sub-Mariner where I'd left off four years ago.

Things got rough about 1949, and I felt it advisable to pack up and move back to New York. I left my family (two kids by now) in Erie, Pa., with my sister and her family, and came to N.Y. by myself. I picked up comic accounts with Quality Comics, Eastern Color, and, of course, with Stan Lee. Things finally started to good in '50, and my family joined me (four of us lived and worked - in one tiny room in a mid-town hotel for six months!), and we eventually moved to Ridgewood, New Jersey, where I brought a small house.

I guess it was about 1955 when Stan Lee called me and offered me a staff job working on a new satirical magazine to be calledSnafu. I went to work for him, with John Severin and Joe Maneely, and we had a heck of a lot of fun for many months. Of course, the rag eventually died, but we stayed on, still doing comics. You probably know that Joe was killed falling off a train while on the way home after a night's work on Timely. The whole thing blew up when Martin sold out his distributing company, and went with American News, who promptly fouled him up. Anyway, the whole bunch of us were thrown out on our respective ears, and that was when I decided I'd better find another outlet for whatever talent I might have. I was most fortunate in landing a job with Norcross, specializing in humorous and "Studio" cards. Within a year, I had become Planning Director, and was pretty well situated when I heard about an opening with Rust Craft Publishers in Dedham, Mass.

I took the job, as Art Director, General Design, a year ago, and moved my family (three kids now - one sixteen, one twelve, and one eight) up here to Winchester, a lovely little town. A couple of months ago, the guy who hired me, the Corporate Creative Director, had a falling out with management, and was canned. That left me holding the bag, under Senior Art Director, and my head was on the block. We finally agreed to disagree, and the job was terminated last week.

That brings us up to date.

Well, Jerry, this has been a rather long dissertation and I sure hope I haven't bored you. How much of what I've written here is pertinent to your requirements, I don't know, but pick and choose as you like.

I'll be in New York from time to time, Jerry, and if I can do anything further to assist you in preparing your book, I'll be more than glad to cooperate in person. I do remember meeting and talking with you, and if we could get together again maybe I'd recall a few more items that might interest you. You might look up John Jordan, John Daly, Joey Piazza, Mike Roy, George Kapitan, and Al Grenet. There's also a very interesting story concerning Terry Gilkisson, although you may have trouble getting it published.

The era of the ten-cent comic book was a romantic and adventuresome one, and, I hope should make for interesting reading. There was the time, for example, when we turned out the first combination "Sub-Marinener", "Human Torch" volume - 48 pages of writing layout, drawing and lettering, in three days. All done in my aprtment on 33rd St., with six writers, four artists and a case of booze. Sandwiches sent in, Joey Piazz lying in the bathtub, fully clothed, writin up a storm reams of paper littering the floor, everybody yelling at each other, neighbors complaining, the radio and record player going full blast, and the telephone ringing constantly. But we got the job done, and it sold out completely.

Such things were the comic book industry made up of, and I certainly hope that you can compile enough anecdotes to make a small addition to the history of publishing. Anything more I can do to help, I’ll be more than happy to.


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